war, it must be granted, especially when of fair and noble type, have
many times ere now proved benefactors to those they have enslaved. By
dint of chastening, they have forced the vanquished to become better
men and to lead more tranquil lives in future.[22] But these despotic
queens never cease to plague and torment their victims in body and
soul and substance until their sway is ended.

[21] "To use others as their slaves."

[22] Lit. "Enemies for the matter of that, when, being beautiful and
good, they chance to have enslaved some other, have ere now in
many an instance chastened and compelled the vanquished to be
better and to live more easily for the rest of time."



II

The conersation was resumed by Critobulus, and on this wise. He said:
I think I take your meaning fully, Socrates, about these matters; and
for myself, examining my heart, I am further satisfied, I have
sufficient continence and self-command in those respects. So that if
you will only advise me on what I am to do to improve my estate, I
flatter myself I shall not be hindered by those despotic dames, as you
call them. Come, do not hesitate; only tender me what good advice you
can, and trust me I will follow it. But perhaps, Socrates, you have
already passed sentence on us--we are rich enough already, and not in
need of any further wealth?

Soc. It is to myself rather, if I may be included in your plural "we,"