GIBSON: Not quite that; there were only forty-one workmen, and nineteen
of them didn't stay when father died. They got other jobs before I could
stop them.

MIFFLIN: And how many men have you now?

GIBSON: I believe there are one hundred and seventy-five on the pay roll
now.

MIFFLIN: One hundred and seventy-five [_with gusto_] labourers!

GIBSON: Some of them are; some of them are orators.

MIFFLIN [_jovially_]: Ah, I'm afraid that's hard on Miss Gorodna.

GIBSON [_quietly_]: She's both.

MIFFLIN: I understand you are _not_ fighting the labour unions?

GIBSON: No. The workmen themselves declined to unionize the factory.

MIFFLIN: Mr. Gibson, when your father began manufacturing "The Gibson
Upright"--

GIBSON: He didn't. He made a very fine piano--and only a few of them. It
was "The Gibson Upright" that saved the factory. You see, with this
model we began to get on a quantity-production basis. That's why the
business has grown and is growing.

MIFFLIN: You mean that "The Gibson Upright" is the reason for the