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Writings of Abraham Lincoln, the — Volume 4: the Lincoln-Douglas debates by Abraham Lincoln
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down by the majority of the judges, just as Chase's amendment was voted
down by Judge Douglas and his compeers when it was offered to the
Nebraska Bill.

Also, at Galesburgh, I said something in regard to those Springfield
resolutions that Judge Douglas had attempted to use upon me at Ottawa,
and commented at some length upon the fact that they were, as presented,
not genuine. Judge Douglas in his reply to me seemed to be somewhat
exasperated. He said he would never have believed that Abraham Lincoln,
as he kindly called me, would have attempted such a thing as I had
attempted upon that occasion; and among other expressions which he used
toward me, was that I dared to say forgery, that I had dared to say
forgery [turning to Judge Douglas]. Yes, Judge, I did dare to say
forgery. But in this political canvass the Judge ought to remember that I
was not the first who dared to say forgery. At Jacksonville, Judge
Douglas made a speech in answer to something said by Judge Trumbull, and
at the close of what he said upon that subject, he dared to say that
Trumbull had forged his evidence. He said, too, that he should not
concern himself with Trumbull any more, but thereafter he should hold
Lincoln responsible for the slanders upon him. When I met him at
Charleston after that, although I think that I should not have noticed
the subject if he had not said he would hold me responsible for it, I
spread out before him the statements of the evidence that Judge Trumbull
had used, and I asked Judge Douglas, piece by piece, to put his finger
upon one piece of all that evidence that he would say was a forgery! When
I went through with each and every piece, Judge Douglas did not dare then
to say that any piece of it was a forgery. So it seems that there are
some things that Judge Douglas dares to do, and some that he dares not to
do.

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