nevertheless are the farthest imaginable from denying Matter. For the
clearer understanding of this, you must know sensible qualities are by
philosophers divided into PRIMARY and SECONDARY. The former are
Extension, Figure, Solidity, Gravity, Motion, and Rest; and these
they hold exist really in bodies. The latter are those above enumerated;
or, briefly, ALL SENSIBLE QUALITIES BESIDE THE PRIMARY; which they
assert are only so many sensations or ideas existing nowhere but in the
mind. But all this, I doubt not, you are apprised of. For my part, I have
been a long time sensible there was such an opinion current among
philosophers, but was never thoroughly convinced of its truth until now.

PHIL. You are still then of opinion that EXTENSION and FIGURES are
inherent in external unthinking substances?

HYL. I am.

PHIL. But what if the same arguments which are brought against
Secondary Qualities will hold good against these also?

HYL. Why then I shall be obliged to think, they too exist only in the
mind.

PHIL. Is it your opinion the very figure and extension which you
perceive by sense exist in the outward object or material substance?
HYL. It is.

PHIL. Have all other animals as good grounds to think the same of the
figure and extension which they see and feel?

HYL. Without doubt, if they have any thought at all.