"That seems quite reasonable, Walter," said his mother, "but this
material body is here, I can see it and feel it."

"It only seems to be material, mother, because we take our information
from our five material senses; and as these five senses can only testify
regarding material things because of their materiality, they do not
testify to the truth, or reality, of man and the universe."

"But Walter," said the pastor, "if I am not to believe the testimony
of my five senses, how am I to know anything?"

"The five material senses are continually deceiving us. The sense of
sight I have spoken of before, but will give you a different
illustration that shows up the deception of all the senses." "Father,
do you believe life to be a reality?"

"I certainly do."

"Can you see life?"

"I hardly know how to answer that, I can see that you are alive. No,
I shall say we can not see life itself, but only the manifestation of
life."

"I agree with you, father, we cannot see life itself. Can we hear
life?"

"No."