MANDERS. That is strange. How do you mean?

MRS. ALVING. Well, I seem to find explanation and confirmation of
all sorts of things I myself have been thinking. For that is the
wonderful part of it, Pastor Minders--there is really nothing new
in these books, nothing but what most people think and believe.
Only most people either don't formulate it to themselves, or else
keep quiet about it.

MANDERS. Great heavens! Do you really believe that most people--?

MRS. ALVING. I do, indeed.

MANDERS. But surely not in this country? Not here among us?

MRS. ALVING. Yes, certainly; here as elsewhere.

MANDERS. Well, I really must say--!

MRS. ALVING. For the rest, what do you object to in these books?

MANDERS. Object to in them? You surely do not suppose that I have
nothing better to do than to study such publications as these?

MRS. ALVING. That is to say, you know nothing of what you are
condemning?

MANDERS. I have read enough about these writings to disapprove of
them.