When we get back, we get to the point of the right of the people to make
a constitution. Kansas was settled, for example, in 1854. It was a
Territory yet, without having formed a constitution, in a very regular
way, for three years. All this time negro slavery could be taken in by
any few individuals, and by that decision of the Supreme Court, which the
Judge approves, all the rest of the people cannot keep it out; but when
they come to make a constitution, they may say they will not have
slavery. But it is there; they are obliged to tolerate it some way, and
all experience shows it will be so, for they will not take the negro
slaves and absolutely deprive the owners of them. All experience shows
this to be so. All that space of time that runs from the beginning of the
settlement of the Territory until there is sufficiency of people to make
a State constitution,--all that portion of time popular sovereignty is
given up. The seal is absolutely put down upon it by the court decision,
and Judge Douglas puts his own upon the top of that; yet he is appealing
to the people to give him vast credit for his devotion to popular
sovereignty.

Again, when we get to the question of the right of the people to form a
State constitution as they please, to form it with slavery or without
slavery, if that is anything new, I confess I don't know it. Has there
ever been a time when anybody said that any other than the people of a
Territory itself should form a constitution? What is now in it that Judge
Douglas should have fought several years of his life, and pledge himself
to fight all the remaining years of his life for? Can Judge Douglas find
anybody on earth that said that anybody else should form a constitution
for a people? [A voice, "Yes."] Well, I should like you to name him; I
should like to know who he was. [Same voice, "John Calhoun."]

No, sir, I never heard of even John Calhoun saying such a thing. He